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R23 Hochweißsteinhaus » Neue Porze Hütte
  |   8h25   |   21 km   |   924 m   |   841 m

Od koče Hochweißsteinhaus po Vii Alpina pretežno po italijanskem območju do koče Porzehütte. Ob planinski poti bomo spet srečali stara vojna zaklonišča. Etapo lahko označimo kot visokogorsko in poteka že od Luggauer Törl čez 2.200m višine. Pred odhodom priporočamo, da preverimo vremensko napoved in stanje poti.

Lažja varianta (težavnost )

Hochweißsteinhaus-Hochalpljoch - Pot 134 Mga.Chivion - Pot170 Mga.Chiastellin - Mga. Manzón - Mga.Cecido - Mga. Campobon - Almstrasse Tilliacher Joch - Porzehütte (25km, 8h30min).

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Hochweißsteinhaus
1857 m
| CD  3.5 km / 1h15
Luggauer Törl
2233 m
| D  1.5 km / 0h55
Luggauer Sattel
2391 m
| D  1.8 km / 0h50
Steinkarspitz
2473 m
| D  3.2 km / 1h00
Hochspitzjoch
2302 m
| D  1.6 km / 0h40
Gamskogel
2245 m
| D  1.8 km / 0h40
Winkler Joch
2234 m
| D  2.9 km / 1h05
Stollen
2315 m
| D  1 km / 0h45
Bärenbadegg
2408 m
| D  0.8 km / 0h45
Tilliacher Joch
2052 m
| D  2.9 km / 0h30
Neue Porze Hütte
1935 m
Podrobni opis poti
Naravna in kulturna dediščina
Druge velike pešpoti in variante
Planinska pot Südalpiner Weitwanderweg 03, Pot KGW Kärntner Grenzwanderweg. Geo-Trail in pot miru. Vzponi na: vrh Torkarspitze /M. Pietra Blanca (2.513m), vrh Steinkarspitze /M.Antola (2.524m), vrh Reiterkarspitz/M. Cecido (2.421m), vrh Bärenbadeck/Croda Nera (2.430m), vrh Porze/Cma. Palombino (2.559): plezalna pot Austriaweg iz zahodna, plezalna pot Via dei Camosci iz vzhoda.
Koristni topografski zemljevidi
  • WK 223, Naturarena Kärnten ~ Freytag & Berndt (1:50.000)
  • ÖK50 196, 195 ~ Bundesamt für Eich- und Vermessungswesen (1:50.000)
  • Nr. 47, Lienzer Dolomiten - Lesachtal - Karnischer Höhenweg ~ Kompass (1:50.000)
  • 01(8) ~ Tabacco (1:25.000)
Koristni pohodniški vodniki
  • Kulturweg Alpen Bd 1, Gerhard Stürzlinger ~ Pichler (ISBN 3-85431-288-1)
  • Karnische Alpen u. Friaul, Ingrid Pilz ~ Styria (ISBN )
  • AV-Führer Karnischer Hauptkamm, P. Holl ~ (ISBN )
  • Naturkundlicher Führer Via Alpina - Karnischer Kamm, Walter Mair ~ Oesterreichischer Alpenverein (ISBN )
  • Österreichischer Weitwanderweg 03 "Südalpenweg", Sekt. Weitwanderer ~ Sekt. Weitwanderer (ISBN )
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  • Ingo - 23.9.30
    If you choose the easier way on the Italian side, you have to follow trail 448 up to Hochalpljoch, then trail 134 down to Malga Chivion and then trail 170 for the rest of the day: First to Malga Antola, then Malga Ciastellin, Malga Campobon, Tilliacher Joch and Porzehütte. Walking time 9 hours is correct. All the Malgas on the Italian side were closed on the September day that we hiked this section, but some may serve food in the summer. Other hikers said Malga Campobon was open the day before we came, so maybe we just picked the wrong day.
  • Julien Trieste Monaco - 22.8.15
    Beautiful section I did at sunset. No one the trail, very peaceful.
    Pörzehütte is another place I recommend as cakes are really good and staff very nice.
  • Oliver - 22.7.19
    If you intend to take the alternate route on the Italian side I suggest you descend past the Refugio sorgenti di Piave to the West and ascend the other side of the valley. The trail coming down from Hochalplpass in WNW direction is an alternative but it is not recommended. It is completely overgrown with hip to shoulder deep vegetation. The trail is barely visible and often can't be seen due to foliage. Especially in the morning you'll be completely soaked after the one hour descend. It's also quite slippery due to all the leafs and grass on the trail.
  • Bergserker - 22.7.4
    The regular exposed path is okay as of early July. No ice before luggauer thörl. I would still recommend the path over the Frohntal. The area with the possible snowfields experienced some landslides and is difficult to pass.

    If continuing over the regular path to Porze - take the "einfacher Weg", when the signs indicate it. It's just on the other side of the "schwerer Weg" and both will reconnect later.

    I would highly discourage the regular path in bad weather. Take alternative "403a" over Malga Campobon.
  • Carsten - 22.1.10
    Similar to 10A but longer and more exposed. This is not a hiking trail as there are many instances of scrambling, and passages with (much needed) ropes and iron footholds. In many locations the trail is dilapidated / in urgent need of maintenance in order to be safe(r), for example where steel and wooden steps have broken away. I suggest to view the R23 currently described in the guidebook as a challenging 'Alternative.'

    The safe way (a hiking trail) goes from Hochweisssteinhaus via (likely) the Hochalplpass to the Italian side, where it follows a comfortable, hikeable dirt road; close to the Porze hut (end of stage R23), signposts point away from the dirt road to the Porze hut. Old comments on R23 in the guidebook provide a bit more detail, and describe possibilities to overnight. (In bad weather, I started out on the R23 as described in the guidebook and three-quarters the way to Porze hut descended to the Italian side.)
  • POPEYE GG - 18.6.13
    28 juin 2017
    Le temps n'étant pas annoncé beau, nous décidons Egon et moi de prendre par la variante, qui est aussi très belle. Là-haut, on aurait rien vu!
    Finalement temps très acceptable sur les 3/4 du trajet, mais on arrivera trempés au refuge, cette dernière partie se faisant heureusement sur un large chemin carrossable.
    Samodejni prevod [Google]
    28. junij 2017 Vreme ni najavljeno lepo, odločili smo se Egona in mene, da vzamemo različico, ki je prav tako zelo lepa. Tam zgoraj, ničesar ne bi videli! Končno zelo sprejemljiv čas na 3/4 poti, vendar se bomo namočili v zatočišče, ta zadnji del pa bo narejen srečno na široki cesti.
  • Eva - 17.9.15
    I hiked the Almenweg (Strada delle Malghe), because the weather has been very unstable, I didn't dare the ridgehike.. Halfway I slept at Malga Antola, a very basic place, but super charming. It's a place that's still unspoiled by tourism, characteristic and traditional. I liked it a lot. Camping is also possible there.
    Samodejni prevod [Google]
    Pohodil sem po Almenweg (Strada delle Malghe), ker je bilo vreme zelo nestabilno, nisem si upal ridgehike .. Na pol poti sem spal v Malgi Antoli, zelo osnovnem kraju, vendar super očarljiv. To je kraj, ki je še vedno neokrnjen s turizmom, značilnim in tradicionalnim. Veliko mi je bilo všeč. Na voljo je tudi kampiranje.
  • tof - 14.12.25
    Trieste-Monaco les 16 et 17/7/14

    Temps à l'orage sur les 2 jours.

    Utilisation de la variante italienne (strada delle malghe n°132 et 134). Prévoir une carte pour orientation. Sentier très joli parfois en balcon.
    Possibilité ravitaillement et couchage à Malga Antola. Autres malghe fermées. Bivouac le 16 à côté de la Malga Cecido.

    Le 17, passage au Tilliacher Joch. Petit déjeuner à PorzeHutte (mon meilleur apfelstruddel du voyage!), puis direction Obstanserseehutte. Cause orage, nuit dans cabane ouverte nommée Tscharrhütte (voir la carte) avant la montée au Roßkopftörl. Cabane en bon état, balai pour nettoyer.
    Samodejni prevod [Google]
    Trst-Monaco na 16 in 17/07/14 času nevihte čez 2 dni. Uporaba italijansko različico (Strada delle Malghe št 132 in 134). Predloži zemljevid za orientacijo. Zelo lepa pot včasih balkon. Hranjenje in spanje možnost Malga Antola. Drugi Malghe zaprt. Bivak 16 zraven Malga Cecido. 17, odlomek Tilliacher Joch. Zajtrk pri PorzeHutte (moj najboljši apfelstruddel potovanje!), Nato proti Obstanserseehutte. Povzročila nevihta čez noč v odprti kabini imenovano Tscharrhütte (glej zemljevid), pred vzponom na Roßkopftörl. Cabin v dobrem stanju, metla za čiščenje.
  • Elisabeth - 12.12.9
    Deux erreurs dans le topo-guide : le sentier 403 suit bien la Alta Via Carnica ; le refuge Porze n'est pas à 1642m mais à 1942m, donc tout près du col Tilliacher (2052m). Si l'on veut camper, il faut s'arrêter avant le col.
    Faire le plein d'eau avant de partir, car sur cette très longue étape, il n'y en a pas jusqu'au col Tilliacher.
    Samodejni prevod [Google]
    Dve hudi v vodniku: 403 proga sledi veliko Alta Via Carnica zatočišče ni Porze 1642m na 1942m, ampak, tako da vse Tilliacher Pass (2052m). Če želite tabora, morate ustaviti pred prehodom. Napolnite z vodo pred odhodom, saj je na tej stopnji zelo dolgo, je, da ne prenese Tilliacher.
  • Daniel - 12.9.26
    During bad weather -like I had- it is advisable to take the lower road on the Italian side. It is an easy type B road, without too many climbs. On the way you will pass Malga Antola -a mountain dairy farm. GPS:46.6428,12.6974. Do not pass by! You will meet Guiliano and Marino, two elderly men who serve a lunch with self made cheese from raw-milk (!), bread and plenty of wine. There is also a dormitory. Guiliano speaks a little German, but his native tongue is 'Ladino' -a local language. The overnight stay was very pleasant!

    Later you will stop at Malga Manzon. GPS:46.6419,12.6356. They served me coffee, bread and home made cervelat wurst. They put another sausage in my pack, and refused any payment! They have private rooms.

    And there is small refugio just before the Porze pass at 46.6451,12.6025, it seemed unmanned.
    Samodejni prevod [Google]
    V slabem vremenu -Kot sem had- je priporočljivo, da po slabši cesti na italijanski strani. To je enostavno tipa B na cesti, ne da bi preveč vzponov. Na poti boste mimo Malga Antola -a gorsko mlečno farmo. GPS: 46.6428,12.6974. Ne mine! Boste srečali Giuliana in Marinu, dve starejši moški, ki služijo kosilo z self made sir iz surovega mleka (!), Kruh in veliko vina. Na voljo je tudi samski. Giuliana govori malo nemško, vendar je njegov materni jezik je "Ladino" -a lokalni jezik. Prenočitev je bilo zelo prijetno! Kasneje boste nehali na Malga Manzon. GPS: 46.6419,12.6356. Služili so mi kavo, kruh in doma narejene cervelat Wurst. Dajo še eno klobaso na mojem paketu, in zavrnil kakršno koli plačilo! Imajo zasebne sobe. In tam je majhen Refugio tik pred Porze podaja na 46.6451,12.6025, se je zdelo brez posadke.
Zadnja sprememba : 19.12.15